Posts tagged vegan
Posts tagged vegan
“You can’t say the same about atheist posts bashing Christians online; most of what atheists do on the net is mock anyone with religion. And yeah, there are people who call themselves Christian (Westboro Baptist Church), but for you atheists to claim that all Christians are like that is just as offensive and incorrect as saying that all vegans are dumb or unnatural or whatever else you were whining about. Treat other people the way you’d want to be treated or else you look like a hypocrite. “
Veganism is not comparable to atheism or Christianity, but for the sake of argument, I’ll bite.
Vegans aren’t trying to push laws to take the teaching of where meat comes from out of school like some Christians are trying to block evolution. Vegans aren’t rallying to make treating people who got food poisoning from meat illegal like some Christians are trying to ban abortion for women* who need it. Vegans don’t yell at grocery store cashiers when told “Happy Holidays” rather than “Merry Christmas.”
Not only were your asks generalizing and comparing two things that aren’t comparable, but are you serious?
Some religious peoples’ lifebook (the thing these people claim is 100% truth and must be obeyed) states atheists should be killed and you’re asking atheist to be calm in the matter? What are atheists supposed to think about some Christians when they say stuff like this?
But this is beside the point. I’m generally speaking a pretty nice guy, and I don’t hate on people out of no where, despite you generalizing that I do (“You atheists,” “You can’t say the same about atheist posts”)
But this is all irrelevant.
Faith is not reality. You’re welcome to have faith, but if you’re going to try and force people to think like you do by using hatred to in attempt to block reality, whether it’s about my rejection of factory farming or my rejection of Christianity, I feel like I AT LEAST have grounds to poke fun at you and your individuality.
Don’t like it? Tell me why.
“…Also I’m glad other people see the stupidity in anti-choicers crying over the unborn - who, in a proper procedure, would never have time to experience anything resembling suffering, fear or confusion - while feeling no concern whatsoever for animals. A chicken that JUST HATCHED experiences more than any fetus every aborted in the history of Earth. Of course, these are the same people who defend war and guns and all manner of bigotry anyway.”
I’m all about being as vegan as you can, but when someone says that they’re 100% animal death/cruelty free… well, at that point it becomes an argument about the language they’re using, but I really feel that they’re REALLY generalizing.
I love bugs. When I was first going vegan, I still ate bug products because I felt they were different from their mammalian, avian, and fishy production animal counter parts. But now I can’t bring myself to do it- I love bugs too much. Whenever I find an ant or a box elder bug in my apartment, I always bring ‘em outside muttering “this guy has just as much of a right to continue living as I do...”
I don’t expect other vegans to uphold this ideal, but if you’re gunna talk about animal rights, well there you go.
Also, am I the only one bothered by people using the word “murder” when talking about killing animals? I feel like that’s, you know, a human word for unjustified killing. I don’t feel like that word can be applied to animals or unborn. Just sayin.
Oh shut up, you guys were probably eating a fucking burger as you posted this.
I actually did eat a burger today.
Sorry, I guess I forgot to put cows above humans in matter of importance today.
I agree that humans are more important than cows, but if you’re going to say “life” with no farther description, do not be surprised when arguments like this come up. Life isn’t exclusive to humans, and the specifics of “human life” was not mentioned.
Humanity wasn’t specified by the OP, so I don’t see the issue here; animals have life too. Funny how forgetting a word yields a completely different argument.
I’m trying not to be that person who’s argument is solely about language, but sometimes you just gotta.
Live and let live.
I can completely respect people who love animals enough that they try their best to reduce even their most tenuous impact on their welfare. I don’t go that far, but I can admire it.
…Except I never see half these assholes talk about insects, arachnids or other arthropoda. Do keep in mind that I said “half” here. You don’t need to inform me that you’re an exception when I’m clearly aware that exceptions exist.
Arthropods make up 90% of all species on our planet. We would die horribly without them. Only the most miniscule fraction are ever of any inconvenience or threat to us. They have brains like yours, pumping hearts, the same five basic senses (at least) the same two sexes and their behavior is as intricate as any bird or mammal.
For every chicken and pig that gets slaughtered and eaten, literally tens of millions of arthropods are smashed, ground up or poisoned, sometimes with deliberate malice just for existing and looking different. Every bite of EVERY food you have ever eaten, vegan or not, was grown and harvested at the cost of several thousand invertebrates.
All produce, including “organic” produce, makes use of pesticides. All of it. No, all of it. There is no such thing as any farm, anywhere, that grows food for mass consumption without poisoning every little creature who takes a bite. When they say they’re pesticide or chemical free, it means they use biological control; they spray their crop with a virus that slowly melts caterpillars alive, or sprinkle them with millions of tissue-eating nematode worms. More “natural,” sure, but the results are the same. Thousands and thousands of animals die gruesomely for our tomatoes and cucumbers and beans. Always.
I guess they don’t count if their brains are slightly smaller than the smallest animals with “bones”, huh.
Good for you if you don’t eat cows, they are certainly raised in some shit conditions and environmentally unsustainable to boot - but at least acknowledge that you’re playing favorites with your compassion.
I can’t speak for other vegans, but i believe veganism is about reduction of animal deaths, not total elimination.
Let’s face it: total and complete elimination of all animal deaths is impossible in this age, and I am 100% willing to admit that. If I was trying to avoid all animal deaths, I couldn’t go to the mall or nearly anywhere else because the linoleum I was walking on was placed using glue with casein in it (dairy industry, etc). I wouldn’t be able to eat any food I didn’t grow myself because rodents and insects that lived in the farm fields were killed during it’s harvest. The examples are limitless, and this unfortunately is not a new argument.
Like I said, veganism is about reduction, at least for me. Pesticides kill insects and many people kill any spiders that are invading their home- but I feel that these are different cases, as these animals’ lives are not comparable to the factory farming of production animals; they’re just insects living in an environment, who then happen to wander into human territory and you know the rest.
Does this make me a hypocrite? Maybe. I respect all life to a degree which is why I am a vegan, but I’m already considered a hypocrite by some vegans beause I do value human lives more than animal ones (but that just may be because I am, in fact, a human and as such I add more value to my own species).
Don’t make my vegan belly fat fight you over this.
Animal-rights vegans who are pro-choice
Claiming that we put babies above women while they put animals above EVERYONE…
Factory farmed animal: Can feel and respond to deplorable conditions, poor practices, and the occasional physical violence. Forced to be pregnant and constantly in emotional turmoil for the sake of taste.
Unwanted human embryo: Can do none of those things and/or are subjugated to none of those things and was aborted because progressing to a state of birth would have had serious negative consequences for the person carrying it.
…Yeah, these two things are definitely comparable.
“they put animals above EVERYONE…”
I’m glad to see that you still haven’t even tried to understand veganism! This statement proves that :9
They’re canine teeth- many animals have them, even herbivores like horses, deer, and hippos. But I feel like that’s common knowledge!
They aren’t fangs, that’s for sure.
These are meat shreddin’ fangs.
I’ll consider the “but humans have canine teeth” argument valid once our species can kill a rabbit by biting it. And that’s a challenge- happy hunting!
Being pro-life has to do with saving the lives of the unborn, not being vegan.
Hate to break it to ya, bro, but meat is NOT the same as humans.
Am I the only one who finds it interesting that pro-life people “fight for the rights” of embryos, which can’t feel pain, feel emotion, think, or perform it’s own body process, yet ignore the plights of the poorly treated factory farm food animals that CAN (and do) feel pain, feel emotion, think, and perform their own body processes?
The thing that’s even more interesting is when they fully and seemingly happily admit this.
Tumblr what the hell are you doing?
Why and the hey was that anon ask I answered coming up without my commentary or the ask bauble?
OH WELL. Here’s my screenshot of my answer, anon.